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Subject: Re: Kundalini From: "katinka hesselink"
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 08:32:41 -0400 X-Message-Number: 2

Hi Jerry, I have two questions:

1) could you give the title of a book by Gopi ...

2) The karma that makes kundalini rise, could that not be the good karma of the karma-yogi? Seems to me that that possibility just puts everything together, because karma-yoga brings spiritual growth, and you said that spiritual growth is what makes kundalini rising possible. Or am I mixing up different kinds of spiritual growth here? katinka


Subject: RE: Kundalini From: "Gerald Schueler"
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:03:27 -0400 X-Message-Number: 4 >

1) could you give the title of a book by Gopi ...

< Sure, there are many new printings and I beleive that you can now get it in paperback. I have the first hard copy from Shambala dated 1970. Its called KUNDALINI: THE EVOLUTIONARY ENERGY IN MAN by Gopi Krishna with a psychological commentary by James Hillman (a Jungian). Basically Mr. Krishna practiced yoga for many years until one day his kundalini rose up and just about killed him.

>2) The karma that makes kundalini rise, could that not be the good karma of the
>karma-yogi?

If so, then the rising itself will be unprepared, because karma yoga, altruism, and/or lots of good works simply cannot prepare anyone for such an event. Transpersonal psychologists today call such an unconscious arising, a spiritual emergency, one of several possible such emergencies. The rising of kundalini is hard on the body - it causes fever, shakes, loss of appetite, and so on. It happens to a few people automatically who are unprepared for it and turns into a psychological crisis for them. Preparation includes a knowledge of what is going on together with yogic techniques to handle and control it. Theosophists, by and large, are ill-prepared for such an event.

>Seems to me that that possibility just puts everything together, because karma-yoga brings spiritual growth, and you said that spiritual growth is what makes kundalini rising possible. Or am I mixing up different kinds of spiritual growth here? katinka<

There is spiritual growth and there is spiritual growth. Certainly good thoughts and deeds are part of it. I personally like the Tibetan view that there must be both means and wisdom. Means is generally meant to imply compassion (bodicitta), and wisdom is generally meant to imply a direct perception and/or understanding of emptiness (sunyata). For a balanced spiritual growth, these two have to go together. Altruism, in and of itself, does not lead one to spirituality, although if one is already spiritual then altruism usually follows as a consequence. Ted Turner, for example, recently gave 4 billion dollars to the UN to help with world hunger and so on. This is extremely altruistic and yet I don't think that Ted Turner is particularly spiritual (could be religious, though (?)). My own feeling on this is that when we develop compassion for others, we will practice karma yoga naturally and spontaneously. But if we want our kundalini to rise under our conscious control, we have to do other things.

Jerry S.